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Ok, so I am going to start posting weekly community discussions with certain topics about what I have encountered over the week that has gotten to me. This all came about over a discussion in chat, where I will not disclose the other party's name out of respect.
The whole topic came over tarot cards, as I was reading that some people were buying their own decks. I was raised traditionally, so the thought of purchasing your own deck was taboo to myself. I stated that you arent supposed to purchase your own deck, that you are supposed to have it gifted. Of course a discussion came about where the opposite party stated that 'Rev. Don says it is all phooey, that you can purchase your own deck with no ill effects.' Then asked for me to state the relevant difference of magickal effect. Here are some examples of Tradition Vs. Modern

Tradition:
It was ok for human sacrifice and was sometimes seen as an honor.
Tarot cards were gifted due to the thought put into the deck by the gifter, giving the deck a strong energy.
Spells were handed down from family member to family member.
Covens were close group and generally exclusive.

Modern:
We dont even sacrifice goats, let alone humans.
Spells and Tarots and other tools are purchased for convenience.
Covens are more open to help their brothers and sisters emerge and practice openly.

At this point we exchanged our differences and agreed to disagree, but the topic still remains. When is it ok for someone to follow tradition or modern practices?
We are in a place of change, so is it ok to keep some traditions but not follow others? or as we change, must we change all ways? Even better, is it cliche to follow a leader blindly and follow their ways because they say it is so? Or is it ok to take different teachings and traditions while studying a particular path, but follow the ways that suit you?

Post your arguments and comments below and look out next week for the next Community Discussion :)

~C.D.

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Comment by Jul (just Jul) on February 6, 2014 at 3:37pm

A few thoughts…

Depending on tradition, you weren't supposed to be gifted your first deck of tarot cards -- you were supposed to steal it. (Yeah, the ethics on that are certainly from a different era!)

I would say that your view of modern covens is not in line with what I have experienced in coven life -- covens are still a closed group and exclusive.

Now to answer your specific questions:

When is it ok for someone to follow tradition or modern practices?
When their personal views, ethics, commands of the gods they serve, common sense, and preferences are in alignment for traditional practices or modern practices, that's when a person can choose a traditional practice or a modern practice. The two can, and most often are, practiced concurrently, however.

We are in a place of change, so is it ok to keep some traditions but not follow others?
That is the way it always has been traditionally. ;)

Even better, is it cliche to follow a leader blindly and follow their ways because they say it is so?
It has been my experience that this comes up more often in "modern" practice than in traditional practice. Traditional practice doesn't require the following of a leader, blindly or otherwise.

Or is it ok to take different teachings and traditions while studying a particular path, but follow the ways that suit you?
If you can make that work in a way that is satisfactory to you, then it is an issue between you and the gods. Some people can make it work. Some can't. Either is okay.

Comment by Kahlan MoonFlower on February 8, 2014 at 3:31pm

I love that there are such wonderful traditions to follow the path of. For me personally there were no other pagans in my family when I started my journey, I had to forge my own path. And it was 5 years before I was even comfortable enough to seek out a coven to circle with- not because I didn't agree with tradition but because of fear both personal and spiritual...I have grown and flourished now in my coven but If I wanted to learn anything prior I was on my own-

Comment by Edwin Antonio Diaz on February 8, 2014 at 8:33pm

I prefer to buy my deck of cards for reading Im sure if some one gave them to me they would have to be some one I have a great connection too. But following any faith blindly to me would be fulish.

Comment by Edwin Antonio Diaz on February 8, 2014 at 8:35pm

fbut following any faith blindly would be foolish.

Comment by fantumofthewinds on February 10, 2014 at 12:16pm

I'm totally lost as it sounds as if five different topics are taking place here , Tarot, tradition < modern practices, a particular path or blending ? must have been a heck of a conversation .

Comment by Davin Raincloud on February 16, 2014 at 4:50am

If we weren't able to buy our own Tarot deck, the Tarot business would be defunct by now.

Comment by Joseph Arthur Allen Beiser on February 16, 2014 at 12:03pm

@Fantumofthewinds: As I stated this whole topic came about from an argument over tarot cards. The topic is Tradition vs Modern, the questions are questions under that topic.

@Raincloud: How would it be defunct? Just because you werent able to purchase them doesnt mean that they were not being bought. Just means you didnt buy them. It goes back to Oral Tradition where you actually talked about things in your life with other people, rather than just taking care of everything yourself.

Comment by Davin Raincloud on February 17, 2014 at 1:07am

I don't have stats, but I suspect 95% of sales are people buying them for themselves. Most of the people at Aeclectic Tarot Forum are 'collectors' and don't actually read the cards.

I respect people have a tradition, so go for that. I respect that. But I personally don't think it matters.

Comment by Edwin Antonio Diaz on February 17, 2014 at 4:17pm

I will just move to the Run to the Runes.

Comment by fantumofthewinds on February 25, 2014 at 6:31pm

Rain I would say you are possibly right , as I have a friend that collects the cards she does not read then however , believes she has over 50 decks , like some of us who collect cars or purses or shoes . I now understand the argument , and folks are entitled to think as they choose , I grew up with the rider and I have a few others but its the rider that's been around the longest, as for tradition , when it comes to reading or symbols or runes ect all are connected and if one studies these long enough one will make the connections them selves. its basically the same with Gods or goddesses, just different cultures call them by their traditions or language or heritage .

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